Key Points
- Apple's first foldable iPhone sold out during preorders, with delivery estimates stretching into January.
- Loop Capital downgraded Apple over concerns about iPhone shipments, rising memory costs, and valuation.
- Apple's Nov. 2 earnings report could provide insight into whether strong demand will support continued growth.
- Special Report: Read this before November 3rd
Apple Inc. (NASDAQ: AAPL) shares hit an all-time high on Oct. 23 and are currently trading just below it, around $345, up nearly 30% over the past year. Driving the latest phase of the run is the iPhone Duo, Apple’s first foldable, which sold out within minutes of its recent launch despite its $1,999 tag. The waitlist for delivery now stretches into late January, and Apple has been scrambling to increase production.
For a company long dismissed as being overly dependent on incremental upgrades, demand like this is a real change of pace. Yet not everyone is convinced: Apple has just received a rare downgrade, and mounting concerns suggest its record valuation leaves little room for error.
With earnings due on Nov. 2, the question is whether the foldable frenzy marks the start of something lasting, or whether Apple’s shares might have run too far, too fast.
iPhone Duo Demand Is Outpacing Supply
While there were doubts about how hungry consumers would be for the Duo, the latest demand signals are hard to argue with. The foldable sold out almost immediately, and Apple’s own website now quotes delivery dates in late January, implying waits of around three months even at nearly $2,000 a phone. Behind the scenes, Apple has reportedly scrambled to lift output, with some reports pointing to an increase of as much as 30% in planned production. The launch hasn't been entirely smooth, however. On Oct. 26, Apple acknowledged that a small number of Duo units had experienced inner-display problems.
It isn’t just the foldable model doing well. Apple’s new iPhone 18 Pro has also been selling well, reportedly grabbing about a third of China’s smartphone market in its opening week, a reminder that Apple’s premium pull remains strong in a market where it has often struggled. Put it together, and this is clearly still a company whose products people will queue around the block for.
For the bulls, that matters well beyond any new hardware. A richer lineup lifts average selling prices, pulls more users deeper into Apple’s lucrative services ecosystem, and hints that the foldable could open an entirely new product category. After years of being written off as a slow grower, Apple's iPhone unit sales suddenly look like a growth story again.
Apple's Valuation Gives Wall Street Reason to Pause
Not everyone is buying it, though. On Oct. 20, Loop Capital cut its rating on Apple to Hold, arguing that iPhone shipments trimmed earlier in the year may not be recovered after all, and flagging the risk that rising memory costs eat into margins. The firm still likes Apple’s long-term services story, but reckons the stock needs a “fundamental catalyst reset” after its run to five-year valuation highs.
The downgrade also comes after reports that Apple reduced iPhone 18 Pro component orders, raising further questions about demand. However, for now it’s a minority view, with the consensus rating still a Moderate Buy.
That valuation is the crux of the bear case. Apple trades at nearly 40 times earnings, a rich multiple for a business whose growth, while healthy, is hardly explosive. At that price, strong demand alone may not be enough: if memory costs squeeze margins, or high prices crimp sales of the standard iPhone models, the shares have plenty of room to fall. In other words, the real question isn’t whether the Duo will be a hit. It’s whether it’s going to be a big enough hit to justify what investors are being asked to pay.
Apple's Nov. 2 Earnings Put Guidance in Focus
One wrinkle for anyone hoping that the Nov. 2 earnings report settles the argument: it probably won’t, at least not directly. Apple’s fiscal fourth quarter ended in September, before the Duo went on sale, so the headline numbers will say little about how the foldable is actually selling.
The real tell will be the guidance. Investors will be hunting for a December-quarter revenue outlook that comfortably clears the bar Wall Street has set, along with reassurance that margins aren't being eaten into as memory costs climb.
Can Apple's Earnings Justify Its Record Valuation?
Ahead of the Nov. 2 report, investors are right to ask whether red-hot Duo demand can not only justify Apple’s record run, but send it to fresh highs. On the product itself, the bulls' argument is convincing: the foldable is a clear hit, the China numbers are encouraging, and Apple finally has a story to tell beyond another round of iPhone refreshes.
The stock, though, is a different question. At near-record levels and nearly 40 times earnings, Apple needs more than sold-out queues; it needs a December outlook strong enough to prove the frenzy will turn into profit. A sold-out foldable might be reason enough to admire Apple again, but it will take a convincing report and outlook to justify paying up for it.
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